AMD’s Ryzen 4000 series APUs should hit the market soon (first as OEM only, but as DIY processors for PC builders shortly thereafter). A few days ago, we reported that the APU (Fast Processing Unit) lineup might include a “Ryzen 5 3600 killer” AMD Ryzen 5 4650G APU if a particular price leak is to be expected, but we’re now seeing some pretty clear 4650G benchmarks online, and are ready to throw in Another look.
Hardware Cabinet executable He tweeted some Nvidia GeForce RTX 2080Ti benchmarks running in tandem with the Ryzen 5 4650G ‘Renoir’ APU (presumably the 2080 Ti was chosen to prevent any GPU throttling that might skew processor comparison results), and compared them to an AMD Ryzen 5 3600 processor The results showed that the 4650G performed worse than the 3600 on stock settings but managed to nearly fill the gap when overclocking the two processors.
So, how does the 4650G stack up against the 3600 if these benchmarks are accurate? Certainly not the “3600 killer” we originally thought, but not too far off for those who just want an entry-level integrated graphics processor.
Our reasoning in the previous article was that the AMD Ryzen 5 4650G appears to offer the same number of cores and clock speeds as the Ryzen 5 3600, is based on the same Zen 2 architecture and made using the same 7nm manufacturing process, but also includes Vega graphics cores. However, there are differences between the two. Aside from the obvious — the 4650G has integrated graphics cores — one difference is that the 4000 series APUs are monolithic chips that don’t use the Ryzen 3000 series split CCX configuration.
Let’s go, here’s a series of my results running a Renoir (4650G) with a 2080Ti to see if it would perform better than the 3600. All tests were done 3 times to eliminate instant play variance
Disclaimer: It’s my first time doing something like this, so any tips are welcome! 😁
– ExecutableFix (ExecuFix) July 28, 2020
in the collective reference averages ( last tweet in thread) on medium settings at 1080p, the 3600G records an average of 188 fps at stock settings, while the 4650G records 164 fps. When overclocked on both processors (with the 3600 at 4.25 GHz on the CCX0 and 4.35 GHz on the CCX1, and the 4650 GHz at 4.3 GHz on all cores), the 3600 registers 190 fps and the 4650 registers 181 fps. But the 4650G overclock also features memory overclocking from 3600MHz CL14 to 4400MHz CL16.
Analysis: The 4650G might be a better option, but only if you’re starting without a graphics card
So, to roughly bridge that performance gap, the 4650G appears to be gaining a lot of performance through memory overclocking – which it should be good at. We’ve already seen the AMD Ryzen 7 4700G clock in at 4400MHz on memory clock with a 1:1 FCLK to UCLK timing ratio for extremely low memory latency.
We also saw how impressive the integrated Vega graphics cores must be, as we watched the 4700G play Death Stranding and other games at high settings without much effort. If you’re a heavy overclocker, these benchmark scores might tempt you toward the 4650G, but it’s worth remembering that the 3600’s overclocker still appears to perform a bit better even when the two processors are overclocked.
This is the average FPS through all the tests. In short: Not worth buying the 4650G if you’re going to combine it with a dedicated graphics card, the 3600 will serve you well and better most of the time pic.twitter.com/lDF9ApGSpf
– ExecutableFix (ExecuFix) July 28, 2020
However, where the 4650G shines is in those architectures built with the sole purpose of keeping things as cheap as possible with the option to upgrade a bit down the line. With the Ryzen 5 4650G, you’ll be able to put together a $450 gaming PC that can play your favorite esports games, or even graphically intense games on slightly lower settings, at a smooth enough frame rate, And You have the option down the line to add just one component – one of the best graphics cards – and you have a full-fledged, mid-to-high end gaming PC.
In other words, because by these standards the Ryzen 5 4650G comes close enough to the Ryzen 5 3600 to ignore integrated graphics, but also has the addition of those integrated graphics, it’s a great way to start on a budget and upgrade later to a high-end architecture without also having to Replace the CPU. You don’t lose a lot of raw CPU power with the addition of integrated graphics cores.